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John 15:8 · World English Bible

John 15:8 Meaning In This My Father Is Glorified

In this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; and so you will be my disciples.

What does John 15:8 mean?

Fruit is a byproduct, never a target. Glory here is the shining through of the formless into form.

From the Ego v. Being reading below.

John 15:8 through 2 lenses

The same verse, read by 2 traditions.

EGO & BEING

Ego v. Being

Fruit is a byproduct, never a target.

Glory here is the shining through of the formless into form. Fruit is the visible evidence that consciousness is flowing without obstruction.

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SUFISM

Sufism

No power and no strength except by God: the doing comes from somewhere else A short line the Prophet taught his companions to keep on their tongues. Anyone whose work turns out well stands at a fork, where the credit can quietly slide under their own name. Handing the strength back at that moment keeps a person light, and lifts the weight of having to be the origin of anything good.

Ikhlāṣ: Sincerity Al-Ghazali treats this as the hinge the whole inner life turns on. Work that goes well draws attention, attention feels good, and the reason for doing it starts drifting toward being seen. Sincerity is the quiet check on whose name the effort sits under. It gets repeated often, because the answer keeps sliding, and it lets a person do a great deal without needing anyone to know who did it.

Baraka: blessing that makes a small thing go far Some small efforts come to far more than anyone expected, and some large ones come to almost nothing. The gap between what a person puts in and what comes out of it is not something anyone can arrange in advance. Once that lands, the pressure to force a big result drops away, and the attention moves to staying close to where the increase comes from.

Ṣuḥba: keeping close company The Sufis hold that this path is caught more than taught, through long stretches of time near someone who already lives it. Nobody becomes a student by agreeing with a teacher's ideas; the change comes from nearness, the way people pick up the habits of those they are around. Staying close does the work, and the results show up later, without having been aimed at.

Knowledge without action is madness: being taught shows in what comes out Al-Ghazali says this about people who collect understanding and never spend any of it. Claiming to belong to a teacher costs nothing, and such a claim can stand unchallenged for years. Whether it holds shows up in ordinary evidence over time: what a person makes, how they treat the people near them, what they do when it is inconvenient.

Ego v. Being lens

Live John 15:8 today

  1. Do one small thing well today that nobody will see: the dishes, a tidy desk, a careful email. Let it be good without an audience.
  2. Help someone without mentioning it later, not even lightly, not even as a joke. See what that does to the quality of the help.
  3. When you catch yourself shaping work around how it will look to your boss, come back to the actual problem in front of you. The outcome usually improves when it stops being the point.

Which part of your work today was aimed at the result, and which part was just done well?

The same truth in other traditions

Tao Te Ching 2

The sage acts without claiming credit, and because nothing is claimed, nothing is lost. The work shines precisely where the self stops posing in front of it.

Hinduism · Bhagavad Gita

You have a right to the work, never to its fruits. Aim at the fruit and the work bends out of shape.

Zen

Chop wood, carry water. The result takes care of itself when the doing is whole.

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